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Topic Started: Jul 21 2014, 05:11 PM (1,165 Views)
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Vegeta clearly threw the Dragon Ball near the horizon judging from the lack of visual of the sphere, and Burter manages to recover it in the next panel. How fast is that?
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It depends on a lot of factors such as : Vegeta's throwing speed , Burter's reaction time

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Well, let's say that Burter's power is 40,000

His special ability enables him to have a speed higher than anyone with a power level of 40,000; his speed would be anything from 41,000- 50,000.

That would still be slower than Goku so it fits.
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Jul 21 2014, 05:47 PM
Well, let's say that Burter's power is 40,000

His special ability enables him to have a speed higher than anyone with a power level of 40,000; his speed would be anything from 41,000- 50,000.

That would still be slower than Goku so it fits.
lol I know it's slower than Goku's but I was asking for more of a name like sound, hyper or something.
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Jul 21 2014, 05:49 PM
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Jul 21 2014, 05:47 PM
Well, let's say that Burter's power is 40,000

His special ability enables him to have a speed higher than anyone with a power level of 40,000; his speed would be anything from 41,000- 50,000.

That would still be slower than Goku so it fits.
lol I know it's slower than Goku's but I was asking for more of a name like sound, hyper or something.
Well, can't help you there buddy
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Jul 21 2014, 05:47 PM
Well, let's say that Burter's power is 40,000

His special ability enables him to have a speed higher than anyone with a power level of 40,000; his speed would be anything from 41,000- 50,000.

That would still be slower than Goku so it fits.
His speed is higher than Ginyu's

Source: Ginyu.
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Burter's travel speed is very high, his combat speed is above average, but not anything extreme.

Ginyu, on the other hand, has garbage travel speed, but due to his higher power level, is faster in combat.

Burter's good at flying from Point A to Point B quickly
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Jul 21 2014, 05:54 PM
No way to judge off a manga panel.
Why not? If you know how far a horizon is, then anybody should be able to tell.
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His speed is higher than Ginyu's

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Which is eiter a lie or was never said, because Goku had trouble keeping up with Ginyu, yet he totally manhandled Burter ;)

As for Burter's speed. I always looked at it the way that his speed was disproportionately large compared to his powerlevel, just like it is disproportionately small for an Ultra Super Saiyan. So if Burter was around 42k in power, his speed could be as high as 50k or even higher for all we know. Which justifies his claim to being the "fastest man in the universe", in a way. Because if he trained and powered up more and more, he would easily outspeed his peers power-wise, no matter how strong the two of them would be.

But if we're talking absolutes, Burter was markedly slower than goku's 90,000, so we know that he can't be say, twice as fast as he is strong. Still, this ability is really unique, since no other character in the series can be faster than he is strong. USSJs are actually slower than they are strong and that's why Goku developed MSSj instead, which is as fast as it is strong again.
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His speed is higher than Ginyu's

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Which is eiter a lie or was never said, because Goku had trouble keeping up with Ginyu, yet he totally manhandled Burter ;)
It was definitely said. And Goku was stated to be faster than Ginyu, too. Ginyu may have faster reaction speeds, which would help him in a fight.
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No way to judge off a manga panel.
Why not? If you know how far a horizon is, then anybody should be able to tell.
You may have a general idea of distance... but you need a time frame reference... and you're not getting one here.
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His speed is higher than Ginyu's

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Which is eiter a lie or was never said, because Goku had trouble keeping up with Ginyu, yet he totally manhandled Burter ;)
It was definitely said. And Goku was stated to be faster than Ginyu, too. Ginyu may have faster reaction speeds, which would help him in a fight.
Stated? Did you see their fight?

Goku couldn't do anything against Ginyu before he went Kaioken. Ginyu was pressuring him. While against Burter he had such a speed advantage that it wasn't even funny.

Goku > Burter > Ginyu in terms of speed simply does not compute. You should only trust statements as long as actions don't contradict them, which in case they did - big time.

And this is not Naruto, no such thing as "reaction times" that are some independent factor irrelevant to the power level. Goku: 90,000, Burter, ~42,000 (Speed perhaps aronud 50,000), Ginyu: 120,000. That's all there is to it.
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His speed is higher than Ginyu's

Source: Ginyu.



Which is eiter a lie or was never said, because Goku had trouble keeping up with Ginyu, yet he totally manhandled Burter ;)
It was definitely said. And Goku was stated to be faster than Ginyu, too. Ginyu may have faster reaction speeds, which would help him in a fight.
Stated? Did you see their fight?

Goku couldn't do anything against Ginyu before he went Kaioken. Ginyu was pressuring him. While against Burter he had such a speed advantage that it wasn't even funny.

Goku > Burter > Ginyu in terms of speed simply does not compute. You should only trust statements as long as actions don't contradict them, which in case they did - big time.

And this is not Naruto, no such thing as "reaction times" that are some independent factor irrelevant to the power level. Goku: 90,000, Burter, ~42,000 (Speed perhaps aronud 50,000), Ginyu: 120,000. That's all there is to it.
I don't think anything is contradicted since Goku was stated to be faster than Ginyu even when not at full power.

Goku > Ginyu and Burter is stated

Goku > Burter is stated

Burter > Ginyu is stated

Goku > Burter > Ginyu works fine. I don't know why Ginyu would lie about being inferior to someone else.
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